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Melita Wifi

Osprey
23-Nov-13 6:53 PM
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A few days ago I noticed that there was a new unsecured (shows as open) wifi signal at my home. Then I noticed that it has the exact same signal strength as the wifi fibre modem that Melita recently upgraded me to. And, surprise surprise, if I turn off my modem, the signal goes away.

So I Googled up "Melita Wifi" (that's how it shows in the nearby wifi list) and found out this article:

http://www.melita.com/free-wi-fi-for-melita-mobile-subscribers/

Apparently the 30,000 indoor wifi spots mentioned are nothing but signals coming from Wifi Modems installed at (possibly oblivious) home users. I don't recall Melita ever told me about using the internet connection (that I am paying for) to give free internet to their mobile subscribers.

Did anyone else owning a Melita Fibre Wifi modem experience this. Are you aware that it can be used by anyone with a My Melita account? Do you know if it has any effect on internet performance, or, worse still, privacy and security?

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B.Theuma
23-Nov-13 7:07 PM
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I also noticed this new 'Melita WiFi' signal at home today, but since I don't have a My Melita account I could not access it. Probably coming from a neighbour's modem then...

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Osprey
24-Nov-13 8:33 AM
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@B.Theuma: You don't need a My Melita account for your modem to broadcast that signal. You need one to be able to use it. The article says this is for Melita Mobile subscribers. I do have a My Melita account (which I use to pay my bills) but I do not have a Melita Mobile account. I have not yet tried to access internet using my My Melita credentials since I don't know if that would incur some charge.

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MercyKiller101
23-Nov-13 7:51 PM
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It should have no effect on performance, the bandwidth utilized is bandwidth you aren't using anyway. Privacy wise the people using the connection probably have more to worry about than you do, since you have direct access to the modem, and they don't.

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vitowito
03-Dec-13 6:23 AM
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This could all be viewed from a different angle.
Melita installed a line and a modem into my propperty so people could have free wifi ...
Instead of giving me a free connection (or at least a discount on my current connection) for letting them use my propperty for their new service, They charge me at full price.
Off cource i dont expect a free connection. But at least an internet or TV upgrade or a 2 euro discount on my bill .. or some free calls .. At least it's got to be something.

I am not the kind of guy who gives these large corporate companies free stuff. Im the kind of guy who will argure with their customer service for a 10 cent mistake on my bill. They make enough profit as it is.

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Osprey
04-Dec-13 9:14 AM
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Or at least give us free access to Wifi being shared by other Melita modems (without requiring us to be subscribed to Melita Mobile). That way, just like people get free wifi through my modem, I get free wifi through others'.

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Osprey
04-Dec-13 7:08 PM
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Confirmed. It won't allow me access with my MyMelita credentials.....

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vellarod1
03-Dec-13 11:35 PM
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Theoretically if my connection speed is 30mbps and the connection wire supports only 30mbps, then mobile users start using my speed. This would result in LAG. STOP THIS MADNESS. USE 4G not WIFI for mobile internet!! And what about consumer rights? Imagine you buy a car and the mother company force you to share your car with other customers. STOP THIS MADNESS. And what about security rights? Imagine a hacker connects with my modem and hacks a bank. My IP is logged on the bank's database. 

Is it possible to remove the modem's antenna and connect the modem with an independent router?

 

 

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vitowito
04-Dec-13 3:12 PM
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You can turn off the wifi antenna from the modem's settings and install an independent router yes.

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vitowito
06-Dec-13 5:01 AM
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Just checked again .. If you turn off the wifi connection, the melita open wifi will still be available to connect to.
I think i should call them .. they dont deserve free electricity for their service.

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MercyKiller101
06-Dec-13 5:29 PM
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The cable melita uses goes up to around 400Mb/s, please tell me more about how your 30Mb/s connection is being limited by this. 

This is the point where I seriously question the average intelligence of Maltese people. This circlejerk of rage you have going on is completely based on conjecture. RTFM:

http://help.melita.com/index.php/category/mobile/melitawifi-mobile/
 

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vellarod1
06-Dec-13 8:28 PM
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I never said that I have a Melita connection. I was taking hypothetically. And as far as I know not everyone has a fibre optic connection.

"This is the point where I seriously question the average intelligence of Maltese people. This circlejerk of rage you have going on is completely based on conjecture."

People have the right for knowledge. Don't be a jerk about it if someone asks something...

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MercyKiller101
06-Dec-13 9:08 PM
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People should look for knowledge before they spread their ignorance. And Melita doesn't offer a fibre optic connection to homes, fibre powered packages use coaxial cable. 

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d0hacker
06-Dec-13 11:52 AM

This is troubling. I noticed it too, because my mum was asking me what is this melitawifi thing.

So I phoned them and they said it could not be disabled, the modem can not be accessed by SSH and even if you disable wireless it will still remain on. The only way I was thinking of getting rid of it is to phyiscally open the modem and de-solder the antenna, then of course you would need another wireless router to have wifi in your home without the melita shit.

Edit: Wrapping the modem in foil made the wireless much less strong lol

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gattard
06-Dec-13 1:43 PM
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i installed an external router turned the wireless off from the melita moden and from the settings in the melita modem made the melita modem  a bridge and the melita wifi is gone

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d0hacker
06-Dec-13 4:10 PM

Gattard, thanks man!

Bridged mode disables the melitawifi. Please note that in bridged mode the modem acts purely as a modem so you will not have any routing cababilities. Ideally you would have an external router with Wifi capabilties. 

Very good find gattard, running always bridged from now on :D

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vellarod1
06-Dec-13 8:28 PM
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Good job.

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Osprey
07-Dec-13 12:38 PM
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Basically what d0hacker said, but this comes from Melita's FAQs that Mercy Killer shared (thanks for that).

 

"Can I opt-out in order not to let the Melita modem I have at home or office to be used as an access point for the Melita WiFi service?

Melita Fibre Power modems (DOCSIS 3.0) are all enabled to extend the Melita WiFi network across Malta and Gozo. As a client with access to Melita’s WiFi service you also get to take advantage of this big WiFi coverage. Although the modem at your home or office is also a hotspot for this service, it does not affect your modem speed or bandwidth. This is also a separate network from your home network so anyone connected to Melita’s WiFi will not be able to view your personal files. Should you still wish to remove this service, this can be done by disabling the wireless capability of your home or office modem. This is referred to as putting the modem on ‘bridge mode’. If you then still wish to use your internet over WiFi at home you then need to acquire and connect your own personal router to the Melita modem through one of the four LAN ports. Alternatively you may connect your computer directly via network cable to the modem."

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Steve
07-Dec-13 6:55 PM
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I noticed this aswell (from my smartphone). Glad to know im not alone on this.

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