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How am I to know..

P!ay*
20-Aug-13 7:23 PM
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LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Sheep I stood up, I got counted Spaced Out Forecaster LANThrax Extremist Bug Hunter Collector Salmon Elite Bug Hunter

..that people prefer Ice-Cream over a little bit of Granita or Slush?

On the same note, it also does not make sense to give points for "Hard To Predict"

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Osprey
20-Aug-13 7:42 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

The "Hard to guess" prize/penalty was meant to deter questions like "would you prefer a bar of chocolate or a kick in the groin?"

I think your case was unfortunate. Had there been more voters, the outcome might have been different. Back in the good old days there used 150+ voters per poll.

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P!ay*
21-Aug-13 4:00 PM
LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Sheep I stood up, I got counted Spaced Out Forecaster LANThrax Extremist Bug Hunter Collector Salmon Elite Bug Hunter

So.. is it going to be changed now?

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Osprey
21-Aug-13 4:30 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

First I need to find a way to deter questions like "would you prefer a bar of chocolate or a kick in the groin?"

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P!ay*
21-Aug-13 5:06 PM
LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Sheep I stood up, I got counted Spaced Out Forecaster LANThrax Extremist Bug Hunter Collector Salmon Elite Bug Hunter
I thinkthat it should be taken care of in the "approval period" ..when it needs voted upon.
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Osprey
22-Aug-13 8:59 AM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

People are not voting, so anything passes.

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Heartshot
22-Aug-13 10:14 PM
Eye For Detail LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Noteworthy Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Outstanding Eye For Detail Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Salmon

the current 'question' is just wrong.... there's only 1 correct answer... so are we just guessing how many people know math?

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Osprey
22-Aug-13 11:15 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

(3+2)*2    or    3+(2*2) ?

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vellarod1
22-Aug-13 11:29 PM
LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic LANThrax Extremist Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Spaced Out Salmon

the current 'question' is just wrong.... there's only 1 correct answer... so are we just guessing how many people know math?

Heartshot

yes

 

 

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Heartshot
23-Aug-13 12:29 AM
Eye For Detail LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Noteworthy Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Outstanding Eye For Detail Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Salmon

(3+2)*2    or    3+(2*2) ?

Osprey

 

there are no brackets in the question. brackets change the answer. 

 

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Osprey
23-Aug-13 8:19 AM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

So, which one is the right answer then?

Is the glass half empty or half full?


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Osprey
23-Aug-13 8:21 AM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

Back on topic, would it solve anything if there was a minimum number of voters that would be required for the predictabilty bonus/penalty to be applied?

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Heartshot
23-Aug-13 10:19 PM
Eye For Detail LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Noteworthy Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Outstanding Eye For Detail Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Salmon

So, which one is the right answer then?

Is the glass half empty or half full?

Osprey

BIDMAS is a math rule. glass half full/empty is just perspective
 

 

 

Back on topic, would it solve anything if there was a minimum number of voters that would be required for the predictabilty bonus/penalty to be applied?

Osprey

Either that or someone appointed to pass the questions. Since lately there's only been a few submitted questions and a few voters, the latter should be more viable. Or else, if there's no question available, randomly select a question from of pre-approved list of questions. 

 

 

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Osprey
24-Aug-13 12:15 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

"Either that or someone appointed to pass the questions."

Heartshot

 

It used to be like that, but then there was this dude who started a whole thread to complain about why I did not approve his suggestion. So I changed it to a more democratic method but he still never posted another question.

 

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vellarod1
24-Aug-13 1:38 PM
LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic LANThrax Extremist Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Spaced Out Salmon

In my opinion you should leave everything as it is. It is not worthed to make such effort. Only an average of 11 members are voting so... Lanthrax members should start discussing other issues such as how to increase the forum activity. Maybe in the future I start making some Unity 3D tutorials and post them exclusively on Lanthrax...

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Osprey
24-Aug-13 3:50 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

During the years I have been giving direct access to the website code to individuals in order to allow them to share the enthusiasm and come up with ways to keep the website renewed with new features (since it is not something I can possibly do alone). I was hoping that they could see LANThrax as their website, one that they could shape the way they want. One they could experiment new stuff and then sit back and enjoy the reaction of teh members (this is basically what motivated me in the first place). All of them use to be daily users. Not only they did not get enthusiastic, they just left silently.

So now, whenever someone offers to do something fo LANThrax, no matter how well intentioned, I get a shiver because it means that he will probably leave soon. At least that is what I see from past history. It could be that they get discouraged after no one seems to appreciate their work. It could be because I fail to give them proper credit.

I used to see this a lot where it came to article. There would people who would want to post articles and they would send to me and I would have to upload them. So, after a couple of submissions, I would allow them to upload them directly. As soon as I do that, their enthusiasm magically fizzies out. I once brought up the subject to some of them about the fact that there was not much point in being an article writer if you are not posting article. Not only there were no new articles, but now I had upset people.

So, as much as I appreciate your offer, vellarod1, I must respectfully decline. I do this, not because yours is a bad idea, but because I've seen this pattern all too many times. And the last thing I want is to see you upset.

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Osprey
24-Aug-13 3:52 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

@Heartshot: Never heard about BIDMAS before. Thanks for bringing it up. I just looked it up on Google. Looks like you can teach an old dog new tricks. There again, maths was never my forte.

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Heartshot
24-Aug-13 4:20 PM
Eye For Detail LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Noteworthy Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Outstanding Eye For Detail Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Salmon

np. vellarod1 has a point though. priority to increase the site's activity should take priority. 

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Osprey
24-Aug-13 4:37 PM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller

How do we increase site activity? I mean, how do we do that without losing good members?

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eraser
24-Aug-13 6:02 PM
Trivia Adept LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic LANThrax Extremist Eye For Detail Noteworthy Eye For Detail Sheep I stood up, I got counted Spaced Out Forecaster Salmon Outstanding Eye For Detail

this has been discussed over and over afaik, the reason that this site was super active 6 years ago was due to the popularity of CoD2 at the time and the need for booking of servers etc. Nowadays games have changed a lot, dunno what happened though to the community, I still regularly play video games and visit gaming websites, i guess most of the people moved on? lol

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Heartshot
24-Aug-13 8:44 PM
Eye For Detail LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Noteworthy Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Outstanding Eye For Detail Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Salmon

Yes, I believe that was the main reason too. So how can we increase site activity? What can LANThrax offer? Servers are a thing of the past, good articles are rarely seen and it's difficult to compete with other well-established world-wide tech sites like the verge, hexus etc. and forum posts only include a couple of WTS and some hardware/software issue (unless you get fast and expert/good posts in forums it's also hard to compete with social sites like Facebook etc.)

 

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vellarod1
25-Aug-13 2:49 AM
LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic LANThrax Extremist Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Spaced Out Salmon

Lanthrax was popular for various reasons. To name a few: 1) Social Networking was still at its beginning 2) Offered a unique service to the Maltese people (booking of servers, thus low ping) 3) Leveling which is equivalent to today's trophies and achievements on playstation network and steam 4) An educational tool regarding games and computing.

Mitigation to the problems (maybe):

1. Should offer a unique service that is interesting the Maltese audience. Example, find an open source game that can be modified and supports the Maltese community. The game must be free to play or easy to setup (like cod2). Preferably brower games, like Mini Clip.

2. Create awards by creating monthly competitions, best funny kill, best score, etc

3. Introduce new members to the administration board, preferably voted by the members = new energy

4. Motivate Lanthrax extremists to share posts on Facebook

5. Hack farmville and shut it down haha

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Osprey
25-Aug-13 9:55 AM
Trivia Adept Rocket Scientist Genius LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic Eye For Detail LANThrax Extremist Noteworthy Eye For Detail Outstanding Eye For Detail Code Breaker Benefactor Code Breaking Master Lupin III Collector Spaced Out Sheep I stood up, I got counted Salmon Forecaster Poller
  1. Difficult to compete against the likes of CoD and other AAA titles that don't need a dedicated server. Would it make sense to build  totally new game or build upon the existing Call of Mars structure for example. I know how to make that game so much better, but I don't have the time. But I am willing to share the source code in case something is interested in taking over it. I am cautious about it, though. I did something similar with Trivia. Belpois had made a wonderful HTML5 version of the game using the existing foundations but making it more aesthetically appealing. As we got close to launching it, he stopped logging in to LANThrax (I think because of school commitments). So not only we didn't get the new game, we lost a good member. So you understand my reluctance to go through this again.
  2. Should we re-introduce the avatar of the week competition?
    http://www.lanthrax.com/avatar-of-the-week-award.news.00292
    Before we do that though, we need to come up with ways to stop abuse. That competition had to be stopped because people were uploading inappropriate stuff and geting upset when I brought it to their attention (they did not like my definition of "acceptable").
  3. Adding people to the administration is another way to make sure they stop being lanthrax members. Just take a look at the list of administrators and see how many of them are active members.
    http://www.lanthrax.com/contact_us.asp
    It's the LANThrax admin curse. As soon as someone becomes and admin, they stop being active. I am all for voting for board members, but you need to also keep in mind that sometimes decisions need to be taken quickly without having to wait for everyones approval. The problem is made worse whn board members have no incentive to vote and just leave thing pending hoping that someone else will decide for them. Here is an example. We used to have a feature that allowed any member to submit an article. A number of admins were tasked with vetting these articles and approving them if they were good enough. What happened was that each admin kept waiting for another admin to approve the article, while the article remained in limbo (much to the submitter's frustration). Some of them did it out of laziness, and some of them did it because they didn't feel like being a Simon Cowell and telling the submitters that the article was not up to standard. So we ended up with admins doin nothing and several alienated potential article writers. Alternately, they would accept everything (sometimes without even reading it) allowing sub-standard articles to come up.
  4. How? Which posts? What if we could tie a lanthrax membership to a Facebook account and somehow allow members to post a link o their wall with one click?
  5. -.-
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vellarod1
25-Aug-13 10:59 PM
LANThrax Loyalist LANThrax Fanatic LANThrax Extremist Sheep I stood up, I got counted Forecaster Spaced Out Salmon

I must say that it is very difficult to solve this problem

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